Whole lotta musical partnership - Synastry between Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.

The post on the Glimmer Twins apparently was well-received, so let's sing this song again, this time for Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.

I couldn't find a well-timed chart for Robert Plant (the one astrodatabank presents, is made from data supplied by Jimmy Page's ex-wife. I don't really think that's a reliable source, and neither do them: the Rodden rating for the chart is C), but there are still things that can be done.

Anyway, the astrodatabank chart may be found here. His noon chart is in the image below (August the 20th, 1948, West Bromwich, England):

Without the ascendant, we cannot know for sure his temperament. He has a very dry and reasonably hot Sun, a very cold and more or less dry Moon, and probably a very cold and dry Lord of the Ascendant (Mercury, in Sign and Exaltation).

So, we don't know exactly what it is, but it's surely dry. 

Jimmy Page is a littler older (January the 9th, 1944, at 04:00, in Heston Middlesex, England):

Page's temperament is clearly phlegmatic, cold and dry.

So, within our limitations, we could say that they have some complementarity, although the indentification issue remains.

Their Moon, moreover, are in good relation. I wouldn't rely much on the exact position of the Moon in Plant's chart (she could be anywhere from 29º Aquarius to 11º Pisces), but she's probably not much far from that. She trines Page's Moon, both of them, of course, in water signs. 

This trines means, of course, that this strong Moon in Jimmy's chart - his Lady of Geniture - sextiles very closely Robert's probable own Lord of Geniture, Mercury. 

So, their best qualities ignite one another. Countless teenagers trying to play Stairway to Heaven on an acoustic guitar agree. 

Speaking of Heaven, Jimmy has Jupiter very high up in the sky, and conjunct Robert's natal Sun/Saturn conjunction. Robert's Saturn high up in this Jovial Page Baloon: "Lead Zeppelin". 

This is reinforced by Jimmy's airy Saturn trining closely airy Robert's Mars.

No Quarter? 

Jimmy's Venus squares Robert's Moon and Mercury.

No relationship, musical or otherwise, is without edges. This one, not only because it's a square, but because of the receptions and of the importance of the players, seems to be serious. We must remember that their careers were separate for decades (yes, they split only after Bonzo died, but we have just seen a synastry between two musical partners that survived a group member's death, among other things).

Even so - and even bearing in mind that we don't have Robert Plant's true chart -, this is another example of a fruitful and longlasting artistic / business partnership. It would be nice to compare it with John Paul Jones's and John Bonham's charts, but I don't have the time to do it now. 

See you soon. Hope you enjoyed this post. If you didn't, here's Kashmir (the best song they ever recorded in my - and, people told me, Robert Plant's - opinion) to lighten you up:

Let's spend the life together - Synastry for Mick and Keith

Synastry is highly overrated for couples, real or imaginary.

It says nothing about whether Mr. Right will notice our infatuated client, or if the girl next door will someday turn a sympathetic look to the poor guy that is able to write to the astrologer for advice but is not, as it seems, to actually ask her out.

Even when the couple manages, somehow, to become a thing of the world, instead of the imagination, synastry does not guarantee that it will last.

It does, however, highlight points in which the couple is stronger, and difficult points - things that may pose threats or difficulties for the couple.


I'd say, in fact, that the great usefulness of synastry is not in love affairs. People do not split if you tell her about their problems, and they seldom do much about that, either. And what is the use of telling them the good points? If they're together, they know all about those.

On the other hand, people do tend to search for advice (astrological or otherwise) when they think about starting a business relationship. Good points must be evaluated, bad points should be attacked (and the sooner, the better).

I'll illustrate it with a very long-lasting and quite fruitful musical (and business) relationship: The Glimmer Twins, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, the founders, main composers, leaders and more famous members of the half-century old rock'n'roll group, the Rolling Stones.

Mick Jagger is the older twin. He was born in July the 26th, 1943, at 02:30 AM, in Dartford, England, UK.

Younger Keith was born in the same town, but in December the 18th, at 06::00 AM.

The first thing to ask is whether they will they get along.

The most basic assessment of that is by comparing the temperaments. Equal temperaments will show conflict and no complementarity (a couple should not be composed of two equals; by definition, you don't need what you already have); totally different temperaments may mean lack of comprehension (they would be the perfect match, if only they could understand each other). The best option lies in the middle: one quality in common.


Mick is quite choleric (anyone with even the most vague awareness of his existence should not be much surprised), hot and dry.

Keith is clearly melancholic, cold and dry.

So, they share the dryness, Mick being the one Playing with Fire and Keith is the Cool, Calm & Collected. Who'd have guessed?

Anyway, the temperament does not pose any problems for a long and successful relationship. Let's see if we find other points of contact between their charts, good or bad.


I'm a King Bee

Keith's ascendant ruler, Mars, is in Gemini, ruled by Mercury. Mercury's Mick's ascendant ruler, so Keith's probably be a little, how should I put it? Under Mick's Thumb.

This will not be a very stable position, as this Mercurial Mars is close to Mick's ascendant, a little above it - dominating the cusp.

Not fade away

Richards's ascendant degree is conjunct Jagger's tenth house cusp. This is not the stronger testimony available, but it could suggest that their professional partnership is not a bad idea.

Another testimony is Keith's tenth house ruler, Mercury (the dispositor of his ascendant ruler), conjunct by antiscion to Mick's seventh house of partners.

At last, their ruler of the tenth are in each other signs - Mercury's in Capricorn (in Keith's chart), Saturn's in Gemini (in Mick's).

Sympathy for the Devil

Not everything, however, is fine. Mick's Mars is closely opposed Keith's Venus. Both planets are involved with the twelfth house in both charts. Keith has Mars as twelfh (and first) house ruler, and Venus in the middle of the house. Mick's twelfth house ruler is also Mars, in the twelfth, in a Venus sign (Taurus, entirely intercepted in the 12).

Fans will remember the sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll stories, the arresting, in short, the infamous self-undoing part of the Rolling Stones lore.

They're also known for their Venus/Mars opposition attitude to women, Under my Thumb and Some Girls being the more obvious examples.

This is something their astrologer, back in the 60's, failed to mention.


So, in short: the synastry showed that they could live together without essential incompatibility, had some strenghening points, specially in the professional area, and some rough edges that could be cause for concern.

That is, a match made in Heaven.

A gift: the Glimmer Twins and his pals Charlie and Ronnie playing in my former back yard, for a couple of old friends from my hometown. Enjoy

Finals for everyone - and a comment on the last fiascos.

First, the comment:

The method, as explained in the Livre Rose (Sports Astrology), seems to work reasonably well. It's not perfect, but it seems to be better than tossing a coin - a very positive thing in this area.

The thing is, two-legged matches seemingly function as a big unique event. I don't know how to solve this problem. It appears to me that the second match is a little bit more reliable, but I still cannot really get to them.

Another problem is that we must determine the favorite. The odds are never 100% reliable, and in these matches they seem even less so. Anyway, I'll keep a close eye on two-legged semifinals, to see if I can come up with anything.

Then, let's get to event charts for the four next important football (to those in our Big Brother up north, "soccer") matches.

In chronological order:

1) Copa del Rey final, Real Madrid vs Atlético Madrid (May the 17th, 2013, 21:30, Madrid).

Dispositor of Fortuna conjunct Fortuna's antiscion, heavy good testimony for the favorites. Moon opposing Fortuna, good testimony against them. Nothing more.

This is a difficult one, but I'd go with the favorites, specially as they're hot favorites. So, Real Madrid should win this match.

2) UEFA Champions League finals, Bayern Munchen vs Borussia Dortmund (May the 25th, 2013, 19:45, London).

Bayern Munchen are the favorites.

I'd disregard Mars inside the seventh house, because it's more than 3 degrees away from the cusp.

I wouldn't disregard, however, the fact that nothing much else happens. No one connects to Fortuna or its antiscion. The Moon does oppose the lord of the seventh, though, within the range of the match. So, the favorite seems to lose (John tells us to forget about the nature of the aspect, it shows contact with the Moon, therefore, victory). 

So, Borussia Dortmund will win.

3) Coppa Italia finals, Roma vs Lazio, May the 26th, 2013, 18:00, Rome.

Roma are the favorites.

Saturn, victory of the underdogs, is just above the first cusp, dominating it. Good for the unders.

Mars, the favorites, is about to conjunct Fortuna, good for the favs. 

Moon does nothing. Underdogs are opposite Pluto by antiscion. This is another tough one, but I'd go with the favorites: Roma will win.

4) DFB Pokal final, Bayern Munchen vs Stuttgard, June the first, 2013, 20:00, Berlin. 

This is a very interesting chart. It's the only clear chart of the four, in fact.

It is heavily on the underdogs side:

One of the strongest possible testimonies is the Moon close to an angle. Here, she is very close to the fourth cusp, less than three minutes of arc apart.

Within the five-degree interval, the Moon contacts Lord of the fourth (underdogs victory) and then lord of the seventh (the underdogs).

So, the underdogs clearly win: let's hear it for Stuttgart!

The problem is, Bayern are the hot favorites. One betting site had it 1.22 for them, against 11.0 for Stuttgard. I'm highly skeptical of the method when those huge differences in odds are involved. Anyway, we'll see what happens in time.

So, here we have four finals. We'll see how they unfold. 

See you soon. 

Fight Horaries - how did I fare?

Roy Nelson celebrating one of my horaries. Thanks, Big Country!

Let's take a quick look at the fight horaries I've published (including this blog, the one in Portuguese and my Youtube channel). They're all championship defenses (so, they're, in short, "Will the Champion keep his belt?" kind of horaries), one of them from boxing, the other ones from MMA.


First, the ones from the blog in Portuguese:

1) Anderson Silva vs Yushin Okami, UFC Rio, middleweight title defense. Prediction: Anderson keeps the belt. Right.

2) Benson Henderson vs Frankie Edgar II, UFC 150, lightweight title defense. Prediction: Henderson keeps the belt. Right.

3) Ronda Rousey vs Sarah Kaufmann, Strikeforce: Rousey vs Kaufman, women's bantamweight title defense. Prediction: Ronda keeps her belt. Right.

4) Carl Froch vs Yusaf Mach, Boxing, supermiddleweight belt. Prediction, Froch keeps the belt. Right.

5 - Benson Henderson vs Gilbert Melendez (UFC on Fox, Henderson vs Melendez), lightweight title defense. Prediction, Henderson keeps the belt. Right.

From the blog in English (not published in the other one)

6 - Junior "Cigano" dos Santos vs Cain Velasquez II. Heavyweight belt defense. I said the horary indicated Cain would win, but I didn't believe it and did a horary about betting on him, which made me bet on Junior "Cigano" and, of course, lose my money. So, I got that one wrong.

7 - Demetrius Johnson vs John Dodson (UFC on Fox, Johnson vs Dodson), flyweight title defense. Prediction: Johnson keeps the belt. Right.

8. George St. Pierre vs Nick Diaz (UFC 158), welterweight title defense. Prediction: St. Pierre keeps the belt. Right.

9. José Aldo vs Frankie Edgar (UFC 156), featherweight title defense. Prediction, Edgar gets the belt. Wrong.

Then, the fight from youtube:

10. Renan Barão vs McDonald (UFC on Fuel TV: Barao vs McDonald), Interim bantamweight title defense. Prediction: Barao keeps the belt. Right.

So, we have 10 fights, two mistakes: 80% of the predictions were correct.

Considering this quite confortable rate, I'll from now on 1) post a lot less on the subject, and 2) when I do, refrain from explaining the reasoning in detail. There are already enough examples of how this kind of horary works.

Moreover, I wish to remind those that claim that the querent must be intimately connected to the question that I'm not a relative, coach, boyfriend, or enemy of any of the fighters. My sole link to the question is my curiosity - the only one, in fact, needed.

UEFA Champions League, semifinals, second leg.

Let's take a look at the charts for the second leg of the semifinals.

I stressed it before, and I must do it again: these event charts are tricky on their own, they're nowhere near as reliable as horary, and two-legged matches are an added complication.

In short, this is not a "bet on me" post, but a "let's see how it goes" one.


The first match happens today, April the 30th, 2013, 20:45, UTC +2, in Madrid, Spain. Real Madrid are hot favorites.

Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund

Underdogs's victory planet (Saturn, ruler of house four) just inside the first cusp: very good for favorites.

Favorite's planet (Mars, ruler of house one) just incide the seventh cusp: very good for the underdogs. Mars is closer to the cusp, so the effect should be stronger.

Moon trines L7, the underdogs. No other important aspect: underdogs win. 

OK, this is weird. Not scoring enough goals to classify, OK, but losing at home? T'hat's not that probable, but, still, the chart is clear.

Second match, tomorrow, May the 1st, same time, UTC +2, in Barcelona, Spain.

Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, May the 1st

Barcelona are the favorites.

The favorite victory's significator (Sun, L10) is right over the seventh cusp: very good for the favorites. 

The significator of the favorites and of the underdog's victory have strenghening antiscion position. (L1 in the tenth and L4 in the fourth by antiscion).

Moon opposes Fortuna: Good for the underdogs.

Venus conjuncts the antiscion of Fortuna, but over six degrees - it would be very good for the underdogs, but it's a bit too far. If it was closer, I'd definitely go for them.

John Frawley implies, in the Sports Astrology, that planets' placement on/in cusps are more important than Moon's aspects, so the Sun's position should have more weight than the Moon-Fortuna opposition.

That would give the favorites a victory, but I really can't see it as a big, overwhelming victory. 

I'll see how it unfolds and try to make sense out of it.

See you later.

Determining the temperament - Worked example.

A friend has asked me how I calculate the temperament.

I'll show how I do it, while I do it, using the late Pope, Blessed John XXIII, as a victim. May he forgive me and pray for us in Heaven.

The amount of detail given is way more than this friend needs, she being a very accomplished astrologer, but it may be useful for other readers, and I'll keep it.

He was born (as Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli) in Sotto il Monte, Italy, in november the 25th, 1881, at 10:15 (thank you, everyone in the Angelicus Merlin Yahoo! list, for helping me being sure of the time).

This is the chart, downloaded from astro.com:

The temperament is investigated from five points. They mean five different layers of the person.

1- The first is the ascendant, the contact between Heaven and Earth when we were born. The qualities are taken from the triplicity of the sign, modulated by close aspects to the cusp. Here we have Capricorn, a cold and dry sign, trined by Saturn, a cold and dry planet, so we have a testimony of much cold and much dryness. C+ D+

2 - The second one is the ascendant ruler, the planet in charge of the ascendant - the "ego", speaking loosely (and I do mean "loosely". Please don't expect any modern psycological terminology precision), or the more prominent set of qualities in the person. Here we have Saturn.

This is a point that causes some divergence. Lilly says planets, when occidental (that is, when rising after the Sun) lose their capacity to warm or cool (that is, they receive their "hot/cold" quality from the sign they're in).

John Frawley agrees with him, except for Saturn, which he states that must always be cold and dry. Although I know Master doesn't state things lightly, I disagree.

I always use the natural qualities of the planets, regardless of whether they're occidental or oriental (I'm open to be proven wrong, though). 

The qualities are: Saturn and Mercury, cold and dry; Jupiter, hot and moist; Mars and Sun, hot and dry; Moon and Venus, cold and moist. I'm not entirely sure of the coldness of Venus, but since she's cold everywhere else, I keep her like that here, too.

In short, we have Saturn, cold and dry. In Taurus, colder and dryer. The opposition to Venus and Mercury, although imensely important in the natal analysis, doesn't moderate Saturn's qualities, since it's separating and quite wide (we would count it if it was closer and/or applying). So, C+D+

3- The season of the Sun. The Sun is the essence of the person, the Spirit, the sparkle from Above. The seasons are associated with the qualities, or the elements (Spring, hot and moist; Summer, hot and dry; Fall, cold and dry; Winter, cold and moist. Again, we have a testimony of coldness and dryness. The Sun is in fiery Sagittarius, so he's less cold and dryer: C-D+

4 - The phase of the Moon. The Moon is the Soul, the reflection of the Spirit in the person. Phases of the Moon mirror the seasons of the Sun, so here he have a hot and moist Moon in the first phase. She's in a cold and dry sign, trined by a hot and moist planet (Jupiter; it's also separating, but it's much closer than the other aspect I discussed above), so the moderations cancel each other out: H M. 

5- The Lord of the Geniture. This is the planet with most essential dignities, the one that should be in charge of the ascendant - it represents the best qualities the person has. Here, the Sun is the only real candidate (Sun in Sagittarius, how weird for a Pope). We're looking for the essential qualities of the planet, so the Sun is hot and dry. In Sagittarius, hotter and dryer. H+ D+

Three testimonies of coldness, four of dryness - he was melancholic. I wouldn't forget the choleric tendency, though, specially with the highly choleric Lord of the Geniture. I'm not going to analyze his chart - at least, not  now - but I'd start taking a good look in the planets in earthy, cold and dry, signs - the planets through which, as it were, the native expresses his temperament, which are Jupiter, Saturn (all the more important by being conjunct the fourth house and being the Lord of the Ascendant), and the Moon (conjunct the North Node and Antares by antiscion).

That's it. This is a very interesting chart, from a very interesting person. I'll write more about it one day.

UFC Lightweight Bout, Heavyweight chart - Henderson vs Melendez

Let's go.

I'm risking losing any credibility I might have in sports astrology with this week's charts. Two event charts from devil-made two-legged semifinals, and a tough horary chart.

This one was asked by me about the fight that is going to happen tomorrow (UFC on Fox: Henderson vs Melendez - Benson Henderson, lightweigh champion, will defend his belt against newcomer and former Strikeforce ligthweight champion, Gilbert Melendez).

 It was cast in February the 22nd. I normally wait for the event to get closer (it's not good predicting the winner of a cancelled fight), but this is one chart I really thought of not publishing; it is a tricky one.

Will Henderson retain his title?

Let's go. Benson Henderson is the champ, so it gets the tenth house ruler, the Sun. Gibert Melendez gets Saturn, fourth house ruler, and the Moon, natural significator of the challenger.

Sun's in Pisces, in the furth house, but in a sign different from the cusp. Not bad, not very good.

Moon's in Leo, close to the ninth cusp. Dominated by the Sun and opposed her own joy, which are minor bad testimonies, but in the ninth, a good enough house. Slightly bad.

Saturn's in Scorpio, in the twelfth, a bad house for everyone else, but not for him (it's his joy). So, not bad.

So far, the chart favors Henderson. Not much, but someone's gotta win, so it would be him.

But what about Venus exactly in the fourth cusp?

She's in Aquarius, so she loves Saturn - and hates the Sun. That would be a good thing for the challenger, right?

No, I think not. She's conjunct the fourth. The only way to be conjunct the fourth cusp is to be in the sign the fourth house ruler, well, rules. And that automatically makes the planet, of course, exactly opposed the tenth cusp (and in terrible reception to the tenth house ruler).

So, that means nothing. Venus is a natural benefic, but it is peregrine: not that great a help.

But I really think she's not a weak help, she's a moderate hinderance. Venus is the ruler of the sixth house, the house of sickness. By antisicion, moreover, she falls exactly on the twelfth cusp, making her twice a baddie.

Lastly, we cannot use the sign she's in to say anything about her, but we can use the sign the other plantes are.
Saturn is in Scorpio, Venus's detriment, while the Sun's in Pisces, her exaltation. Venus is something the Sun loves very much and Saturn hates. It doesn't say much about her intentions, but something that one of the guys adores, the other hates, related to the sixth house? I don't think Melendez will be bitten by a dog on the way to the fight, so he may not be in his best health state.

Instead of equalizing the scales, Venus moves them in Benson Henderson's favour.

So, the result is: "Smooth" Henderson successfully defends his belt against "El Niño" Melendez.

That's it. Hell of a chart, I just hope it will be a nice fight. They're both awesome fighters.